Stately Balls Of Steel

I don’t have Apple Arcade at the moment, as I had gotten bored with what was there, I will likely pick it up again later this year. Netflix on the other hand, we are watching still regularly, so this is very welcome and I am DLing right now.

Also, I have like a lot of Zen tables on my Xbox 360, but never again will I buy from them table by table.

I don’t know why the tables on Zen Pinball Party and this new Pinball Masters app look like trash on my iPad. It looks so blurry with low res assets. Maybe it’s optimized for just the iPhone? It’s annoying that the now abandoned original Zen Pinball app looks better than the new tables. And I agree with you Mirefox, I don’t understand why they are locking all the new tables behind subscription services instead of just the good old fashioned develop your own app and buy tables with real money like every other version of their games on other platforms.

I could put up with them jumping aboard the subscription bandwagon if they disnt completely abandon their cornerstone app to do so. It hasn’t been updated in 4+ years. I want the game to actually fit my screen. I’d also like some of the tournament support they have added to all their other platforms.

As a total ADD gamer, I am very fond of the subscription gaming model.

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I think they used a new game engine for all the new “fx” tables so I don’t think they can just update the old Zen Pinball app, as much as I would like them to,



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They’d have all my money if they hadn’t abandoned iOS. I’m 4 years worth of tables behind at this point but I’m never jumping over to another one of their platforms. The 60 or so tables I already bought on iOS are plenty of money flushed down the Zen toilet.

If I remember correctly, they even had different apps for iPhone and iOS, then they abandoned the apps and started a new app on iOS and you had to buy it all over again. Or was this another pinball app? I can’t recall exactly but, similar to you, I did spend a lot of money on pinball apps.

I think what you described was what happened in consoles. On iOS, they just stopped any development or updates 5 years ago or so. Their screen aspect is still the old iPhone ratio so the app isn’t even full screen. Instead of continuing to work on their flagship app, they created a new app for their Williams acquisition and filled it with every sort of terrible in-game currency unlock imaginable. They also have an app on Apple Arcade now, which actually isn’t bad, but it shows that they can develop a modern UI, tournaments, etc., but have chosen not to for the people that paid for their tables.

A new mobile app is supposed to be coming out this year called Zen Pinball World. I have no idea if it will be good or not.

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I looked it up in my old app menu on iOS:
At some point in my life, I owned Zen Pinball, ACDC pinball, Star Wars Pinball, Pinball Arcade Plus, Pinball HD and Pinball HD for iPhone… :joy: there might be more not showing up

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If the new zen app is good i’ll buy the new tables but i’m not buying my old library again unless there is a huge deal.

Seconded. I’m not 100% against buying some of my favorites provided the app is good. If they try to pull any in-game currency nonsense like with Williams, though, it won’t last more than 10 seconds on my phone.

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From Zen Studio’s discord:

@everyone or Dear Pinball Fans :wink:

We have an exciting invitation for you! You probably saw that we are working on a new mobile game called Zen Pinball World in our Pinball Bites episode in May. :point_right: https://youtu.be/tEOrT1rkAUc?t=193

We will reveal more about this wonderful project soon, but first, we are opening a closed beta session (for Android and iOS) where you can try out the game and give us valuable feedback.

If you are interested in our new mobile adventure (and you have time to fill out a wonderful feedback form during the test), send us your application using the link below!

Thank you! :hugs:

Wait, has it been a year since Zen asked everyone to rebuy all of their tables in a new app? Boy does time fly.

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I’m torn. I loved the original Zen and own all the tables so I know that I can love what they do, but I despise their business model.

I agree their monetization schemes have been pretty shady. Especially the Williams app. Supposedly, the new app will not have any shady FtP shenanigans. Wait and see. By the way, I just updated the Netflix/Zen app Pinball Masters. It has a new Stranger Things table.

I’ve been reluctant to play on any other system after I spent so much on the iOS tables and they’ve seemingly abandoned the app. If they release a new app with no monetization schemes other than simply buying tables I might give it a look but I’m a bitter customer.

Fingers crossed that this isn’t a FtP mess.

I 100% expect it to be. Hoping to be pleasantly surprised. I’ll definitely give it a go when it drops and report back.

On the plus side, outside of the the two South Park tables and the Williams tables, I think this is the first time most of the others (20 or so) have been on iOS, so if the game isn’t an abomination I will have plenty of content to dive in to. It also means I won’t have to double dip and re-buy the same tables I’ve already bought on iOS, at least for now.